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Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:23 pm
by k brown
Got it!

I don't suppose you read French do you?

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Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 am
by Spogg
k brown wrote:I don't suppose you read French do you?


Non!

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:37 pm
by k brown
Drat!

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:17 pm
by Halon
k brown wrote:Drat!


Perfect time to learn the language then :lol:

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:37 pm
by k brown
My wife and I muddled through it with an app on her phone, and though interesting it didn't contain the info I was hoping to find: the details of the filters. Even the schematic was no help as there's no values given for the inductors in the filter circuits! Very frustrating. Would be great to do an emulation of the Ondioline - it was the most flexible and capable of these pre-synth electronic keyboard instruments, but without this information, it would just be a lot of guesswork.

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:27 pm
by Halon
Kevin, try translating the French words in Google Translate perhaps?

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:27 pm
by k brown
We got it translated - the info on the filters isn't contained in the document. It practically tells you how to build one from scratch, but doesn't say anywhere what frequencies the filters are operating at.

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 am
by Spogg
It’s frustrating not to have all the details of an instrument you want to simulate.

In many instances I couldn’t get all the info I needed. For example what formants are present in various harpsichord cases? No info. In this case I provided a comb filter so the user could try various cabinet resonance sounds, according to taste. So you could provide tweakable filters like you did in FREEdrich.

Something else you could do would involve samples of the real thing to analyse the spectra. But then of course you may not be able to get decent samples of such an ancient instrument.

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:08 am
by k brown
As mentioned in my original post, Soniccouture has a sampled Ondioline - too much money.

Re: A 'synth' with no knobs or sliders?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:58 am
by RJHollins
I took a listen to the audio demo for the Ondioline .

Very captivating sound.